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  Family in Illinois USA murdered by a JW

  by proandcon in

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  note the sad story below.... .

  http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-harvey01.html

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  Happy Guy :)

  5,000 women a day.

  If you are trying to compare abortion to a violent abusive man who kills his own family, I find that to be in very poor taste.
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  NHL Lockout... Whatever Shall We Dooooo?!?!

  by Scully in

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  so, it sounds like the nhl and the players association is deadlocked and there's no contract.

  the owners want to put a cap on the players' salaries and the players say no deal to that.

  if there's no hockey this season, have you thought about how you're going to occupy hockey nights??.

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  Happy Guy :)

  What do you Canadians think of the latest Molson beer commercial about the NHL hockey situation ? (My sons and I find it hilarious)
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  What makes a cult a "cult"?

  by XQsThaiPoes in

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  when does a high control group cross the line bettween being socially acceptable to being a "cult"?.

  why do the marines or dod or cia earn special pleading to exempt them from being a "cult" when they seem to have most of the signs of being a cult.

  is it simply the notion that theoretically they should be protecting our interest.

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  The only thing that makes a cult a cult is numbers

  That may be your opinion but it is factually incorrect. If one is to boil it down to only one attribute which defines a cult (as only you have done) that would be the level of control.
  

  Rutherford was right, religion is a snare and a racket!

  That too is obviously your opinion but then he wasn't the first person to make such a comment nor was he the last. Why you would choose to quote Rutherford is strange as he was using this type of agenda and comment in order to promote his own racket. As well, he was an incredible bigot with his anti-semetic attitudes so I don't think his opinion on any subject would carry the slightest bit of weight or credibility except perhaps to those he brainwashed.
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  something in crisis of conscience i didnt know about... that shocked me

  by candidlynuts in

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  on page 164- 166 , in the chapter titled " double standards" subheading " two sorts of weights for measuring".

  the administration of the headquarters of jehovah's witnesses many decades ago decided that, because of the exsisting law, jehovah's witnesses in mexico would present themsevles , not as a religious organization, but as a "cultural" orginazation.

  the local corporation there formed " la torre del vigia,was so registered with the government of mexico(footnote).

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  Happy Guy :)

  Okay...I can't wait
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  Am I making the right decision?

  by crizlee in

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  ok im a senior and its time for me to make decisions.

  i either have the choice of going to this art institute thats near me, i wont be able to live on campus.

  i really want to go to university of texas but my parents cant afford it let alone will they support me for living in austin.

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  Happy Guy :)

  Would this be a wise decision?

  One thing is certain: It is a decision. Whether it is wise or not I have no idea. What I do have an idea on is your outstanding grades Crizlee. Very well done . You clearly have potential. The question is how do you benefit from that potential ? I would suggest that you contact the University and discuss your situation with them. You definitely have "the will" and perhaps they can guide you to "the way" (to make it happen).
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  something in crisis of conscience i didnt know about... that shocked me

  by candidlynuts in

  1. watchtower
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  on page 164- 166 , in the chapter titled " double standards" subheading " two sorts of weights for measuring".

  the administration of the headquarters of jehovah's witnesses many decades ago decided that, because of the exsisting law, jehovah's witnesses in mexico would present themsevles , not as a religious organization, but as a "cultural" orginazation.

  the local corporation there formed " la torre del vigia,was so registered with the government of mexico(footnote).

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  Happy Guy :)

  Keep reading CN, it gets better or even more shocking.
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  What makes a cult a "cult"?

  by XQsThaiPoes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when does a high control group cross the line bettween being socially acceptable to being a "cult"?.

  why do the marines or dod or cia earn special pleading to exempt them from being a "cult" when they seem to have most of the signs of being a cult.

  is it simply the notion that theoretically they should be protecting our interest.

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  Happy Guy :)

  What is this safety people feel when a stranger in green or kaki with a m-16 and the letters U.S."something or nother" on his BDU. Vs a guy with a cheap suit from JC penny or Bullocks and a cobbled together translation of the bible and the uncanny habbit of standing in front of dougnut shops lack? Thats a serious question.

  I'll tell you why this may be for many individuals. Many view the soldier as there to protect them and their interests. Many view the religious cult member as there to use lies or deception to seperate them from their money in order to make the cult more wealthy.

  It's the same old story: Would you rather be shot from the front in clear sight or shot from behind when you're not paying attention.
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  What makes a cult a "cult"?

  by XQsThaiPoes in

  1. watchtower
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  when does a high control group cross the line bettween being socially acceptable to being a "cult"?.

  why do the marines or dod or cia earn special pleading to exempt them from being a "cult" when they seem to have most of the signs of being a cult.

  is it simply the notion that theoretically they should be protecting our interest.

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  Happy Guy :)

  You don't have any bites here yet XQ so I will assist.
  

  This is a very good topic of discussion in my opinion; one which is more appropriatley discussed here on it's own thread.

  I agree with you about some of your comments regarding "high control groups" in so far as a comparison to full cult status. Certainly there are some similarities and overlap in so far as controling activities and suppressing those who challenge authority (to name a few).

  Definitely the military (as one example) have been accused of certain tactics and methodologies which have subsequently been challenged openly and publicly.

  I suppose one could even extend the analysis to the prison system and the guard/warden-prisoner relationship. I am not a fan of aggressive or threatening tactics used to make one submissive although sometimes this is necessary (in the case of the criminal mind).

  Some distinctions only between the military/prison system and a religious cult:

  With a cult one would typically see these methods used to achieve a financial end or goal. As well, a cult would be unregulated in it's "high control tactics".

  Now let's only deal with "regulatory aspect" of tactics which are found in "high control" and perhaps coercive but not illegal.

  In the military or the prison system if the public became aware of these types of tactics there would be avenue for public outcry or at least public discussion with an end result being potential political interference and a change for the better.

  We have seen this over the last five decades in several areas of the military and the prison system. Not only that, we have seen a vigorous response from civil liberty advocacy groups. That is not to say that change has come easy rather it has been 2 steps forward and one step back all the way. Nevertheless, their exists an outside regulatory framework with groups like this who in the end are very subject to "the court of public opinion". If an individual from within those groups is being treated unfairly they have an ability to get a lawyer and get some outside intervention should that intervention be warranted.

  In a religious cult there exists no outside regulatory framework to monitor or effect change for the better. Only illegal tactics can be dealt with by outside regulatory agencies and only if the information is not deliberately suppressed by the cult. Should a member feel that certain "high control" tactics are unfair or oppressive but not necessarily illegal, then they have no ability to get outside advocacy to affect an intervention. Now add to this condition all the other conditions which exist in a cult and a cult member is truly helpless and totally at the mercy of the cult leadership.
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  I found this interesting . . .

  by NewLight2 in

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  here is an obituary from my local paper.

  i have removed all personal info before posting.

  her loving husband thanks jehovah god that he had x .

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  Happy Guy :)

  I am going to risk wading into these choppy waters.

  On the surface I would agree with it being both touching and perfectly normal. I personally have absolutely no problems with this obituary.

  I do agree with somewhat of a possible commercial aspect of it for the following section:

  She looks forward to the
  government of all governments described at Dan
  2:44. The government all Christians were told to
  pray for in the Lord's prayer (Matt 6:9,10).

  If she is, in fact, sleeping in death then she is not, in fact, looking forward to anything. I question whether the above section was inserted for commercial purposes as it is out of place, especially the second sentence in that section "The government all Christians were told to
  pray for in the Lord's prayer (Matt 6:9,10). "

  If this man chooses to use his wife's death as an opportunity to proselytize so be it. It's his grieving process and if that makes him feel better, I have no problem with it. People have done alot worse when it comes to using someone's death to advance a cause. I have also seen people use obituaries to proselytize other religions, especially fundamentalist ones.
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  Can YOU Determine A "Real Apostate" From A "Fake Apostate"?

  by minimus in

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  so often , on this board, we see imposters claiming to be interested in learning the truth about the "truth".

  they may seem to genuinely want to know things and they might ask thought-provoking questions.....so how do you know if the person you're dealing with is the real deal or not??

  any tips to help us know who those "fake apostates" are??

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  And Jesus' main religion was Jewish yet he preached a different message than that of the Jews and he was the foundation of Christianity. So if Jesus himself is considered an apostate by the very definition of the word how can it be considered a bad thing?

  Actually Crinklestein, that is how I (as a non ex-JW) have always viewed you ex-JW "apostates". I have always felt that ex-JWs were much like Jesus who rebelled against the Jewish leaders in so far as WT attempts to label ex JWs as "Apostate" or "Heretics". I view many things that WT does as not only wrong but some are downright evil in nature. I have always felt that the ex-JW revolt of WT has been a rebellion against all that is not God-like in the WT.